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Re: Edit the Sunshine Textbook
« Reply #150 on: February 01, 2013, 02:46:50 PM »
Chiming in from JHS:

I tell my students that starting a sentence with Because is unacceptable if it is written, but that for informal speech it is okay. Most of them are just told 'you need to write xx number of sentences' so they break stuff up as much as possible.

(Not from Sunshine but...) Same thing with "Which is your favorite, Pizza or Hamburgers?" "Pizza is." If you are writing things out, just writing "Pizza is" is....ridiculous. Out loud you can kind of swing it.
Good idea.  I think that is exactly what it is ---though I don't think the JTE's even know that starting a sentence with "because" is taboo.
My kids have been asked to write five sentences about various topics and they're always breaking the "because" sentences into two...

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Re: Edit the Sunshine Textbook
« Reply #151 on: February 01, 2013, 02:54:52 PM »
From the gr3 textbook (p76), fill in the underlined bits with the words from each question:

例) Miki likes cakes which have a lot of fruit.
  1) fruit  / is not too sweet
  2) books / have a lot of adventure
  3) books / talk about love

My question ---Is number one OK? 
Or would it be better as:
  1) fruits / are not too sweet

Definitely "fruits are not too sweet". They need to learn plural/category words properly. They have started fixing this in the "Hi Friends" elementary school book which is a good start.
matt from tsuru.  until i can think of something witty.

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Re: Edit the Sunshine Textbook
« Reply #152 on: February 01, 2013, 08:06:05 PM »
From the gr3 textbook (p76), fill in the underlined bits with the words from each question:

例) Miki likes cakes which have a lot of fruit.
  1) fruit  / is not too sweet
  2) books / have a lot of adventure
  3) books / talk about love

My question ---Is number one OK? 
Or would it be better as:
  1) fruits / are not too sweet

Definitely "fruits are not too sweet". They need to learn plural/category words properly. They have started fixing this in the "Hi Friends" elementary school book which is a good start.

but fruit is a category word... it is perfectly acceptable to say fruit which is not too sweet

Think about it in a grocery store back home. Look up at the labels for the aisles. "Meat" "Ice Cream" "Baked Goods" "Vegetables" If you had an aisle with apples and bananas and kiwis and what the fuck ever in it, what would you label it?

It would definitely be labeled "Fruit" not "Fruits". Fruit is the category.

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Re: Edit the Sunshine Textbook
« Reply #153 on: February 05, 2013, 01:03:40 AM »
are you really going back to this..... :|
Wouldn't it be nice, to get on with my neighbours!

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« Reply #154 on: February 05, 2013, 08:44:56 AM »
are you really going back to this..... :|

he's the one who brought it up, and stated that it was definitely fruits and not fruit. I was just responding to what i saw as something that was just as "definitely" wrong...

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« Reply #155 on: February 05, 2013, 12:02:54 PM »
Haha! He started it!! :-D
Wouldn't it be nice, to get on with my neighbours!

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« Reply #156 on: February 05, 2013, 12:07:43 PM »
Haha! He started it!! :-D

Can you tell I grew up with two brothers?  :wink:

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Re: Edit the Sunshine Textbook
« Reply #157 on: February 06, 2013, 09:00:26 AM »
Here's something some of you may find interesting.
In the grade 2 Sunshine book on page 117, there is a list of various made-up character profiles.
The one in the top left corner is called "Justin Case"

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« Reply #158 on: February 06, 2013, 09:22:37 AM »
pssst.... you mean grade 1... :-P

I came across a passage in the grade 2 book that I'm sorta hesitant on. Page 106, the report on Shirakawa-go, on the part where they're giving you a sample opening, body, and conclusion for a report. In the last sentence of the body, it says "At night, however, as you can see, an amazing scene was made by many lights." Should that not be "made WITH many lights"? Am I being too nitpicky here? The lights don't make the scene, the people who arranged them are the ones who "made" the scene if anything. The lights are used to make it, so it is made by use of them, but not "by" them.

The meaning is clear, it just strikes me as odd. Anyone else?

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Re: Edit the Sunshine Textbook
« Reply #159 on: February 06, 2013, 09:40:34 AM »
pssst.... you mean grade 1... :-P

I came across a passage in the grade 2 book that I'm sorta hesitant on. Page 106, the report on Shirakawa-go, on the part where they're giving you a sample opening, body, and conclusion for a report. In the last sentence of the body, it says "At night, however, as you can see, an amazing scene was made by many lights." Should that not be "made WITH many lights"? Am I being too nitpicky here? The lights don't make the scene, the people who arranged them are the ones who "made" the scene if anything. The lights are used to make it, so it is made by use of them, but not "by" them.

The meaning is clear, it just strikes me as odd. Anyone else?
Oops, yeah ---grade 1...

And yes, I do agree, that sentence does sound better as "with" many lights...